work with us here. the fact remains still that the vast majority of insider trading cases don't go prosecuted. they're not detected. yes, technology detection has increased. >> you know about them more than the s.e.c. does? is everybody telling you about it? >> the number i always heard was that less than 5% of insider cases are actually discovered and prosecuted. is that not a fact? >> i have no idea. and i don't think anybody has an idea that it's a fact. i think that people like to talk about it because it's exciting. it's like sex, drugs, and rock and roll. insider trading fits in as the fourth headline. >> we've got to leave it there. we'd love to talk more about it. especially sex, drugs, and alcohol. >> by the way i should point out i know i'm nitpicking but martha stewart didn't go for insider trading. she was convicted for lying to law enforcement officials. she was not convicted on the charge of insider trading. >> good to clarify these things. absolutely. >>> on we go. some software companies